unconditional election https://calvinismexamined.com/ en 2 Pet 1:10 https://calvinismexamined.com/claim/2-pet-110 <span class="field field-name-title field-formatter-string field-type-string field-label-hidden">2 Pet 1:10</span> <span class="field field-name-uid field-formatter-author field-type-entity-reference field-label-hidden"><span lang="" about="/user/1" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Mr. Anon y mous</span></span> <span class="field field-name-created field-formatter-timestamp field-type-created field-label-hidden">Fri, 06/04/2021 - 19:23</span> <div class="atl atl--layout-twocol-bricks layout layout--twocol-bricks"> <div class="layout__region layout__region--top"> <div class="field field-node--field-state field-formatter-list-default field-name-field-state field-type-workflow field-label-hidden has-single"><div class="field__items"><div class="field__item">Public</div></div> </div> </div> <div class="layout__region layout__region--first-above"> <div class="field field-node-field-topic-or-scripture field-entity-reference-type-taxonomy-term field-formatter-entity-reference-label field-name-field-topic-or-scripture field-type-entity-reference field-label-inline clearfix"><h3 class="field__label">Topic or Scripture</h3><div class="field__items"><div class="field__item field__item--scripture"> <span class="field__item-wrapper"><a href="/taxonomy/term/18" hreflang="en">Scripture</a></span> </div></div> </div> </div> <div class="layout__region layout__region--second-above"> <div class="field field-node-field-tags-claims field-entity-reference-type-taxonomy-term field-formatter-entity-reference-label field-name-field-tags-claims field-type-entity-reference field-label-inline clearfix"><h3 class="field__label">Tags</h3><div class="field__items"><div class="field__item field__item--unconditional-election"> <span class="field__item-wrapper"><a href="/tagsforclaims/unconditional-election" hreflang="en">unconditional election</a></span> </div></div> </div> </div> <div class="layout__region layout__region--middle"> <div class="clearfix text-formatted field field-node--field-claim field-formatter-text-default field-name-field-claim field-type-text-long field-label-above has-single"><h3 class="field__label">Claim</h3><div class="field__items"><div class="field__item"><p>2 Pet 1:10 does not support Calvinism.</p></div></div> </div> <div class="clearfix text-formatted field field-node--field-refutation field-formatter-text-default field-name-field-refutation field-type-text-long field-label-above has-single"><h3 class="field__label">Refuting Calvinism</h3><div class="field__items"><div class="field__item"><p>Per Calvinism, election cannot be changed by people; God elected people before they were born, and they themselves can not affect such election. </p> <p>However, Peter suggests differently, contradicting Calvinism's portrayal of election as being to salvation.</p> <blockquote><p>Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: ... - 2 Pet 1:10</p> </blockquote> <p>This verse refutes election as being to salvation. For it tells people to try to make their own election sure.</p> <p>How can anyone, per Calvinism, give diligence to make their calling and election sure? Aren't they already elect - or not elect - by God, with no ability in themselves to do anything that would affect or change that election? Isn't there nothing that anyone can do to make their own election sure?</p> <p>One possible Calvinist response might be, "That does not mean for the individual to actually try to make their election sure. What it really means is for them, if they already are elect, to try to do what God ordained for them to do. Because God ordained for them to be told to try to do it." This is similar to the Calvinistic response to the question, Why evangelize if the elect will definitely be saved?, the response being, Because God ordained the method.</p> <p>We then might ask Calvinism the following:</p> <p>Why does God tell people to do something that He does not mean for them to do?</p> <p>Why does God not tell people to do something that He does want them to do?</p> <p>Why does God ordain for people to be told to do something they are going to do anyway - since it's ordained they would? Why does God tell people to try to do what they cannot do - make anything sure that God already ordained?</p> <p>In short, this verse with Calvinism's concept of unconditional election leads to either apparent contradiction, or questions  and problems. The problems can be solved by rejecting the Calvinistic concept of unconditional election.</p></div></div> </div> <div class="clearfix text-formatted field field-node--field-support field-formatter-text-default field-name-field-support field-type-text-long field-label-above has-single"><h3 class="field__label">Supporting Calvinism</h3><div class="field__items"><div class="field__item"><p>TBA (to be added)</p></div></div> </div> <section class="field field-node--field-comments field-formatter-comment-default field-name-field-comments field-type-comment field-label-above display-mode-threaded comment-bundle-comment-claim comment-wrapper"> <a name="comments"></a></section> </div> <div class="layout__region layout__region--first-below"> </div> <div class="layout__region layout__region--second-below"> </div> <div class="layout__region layout__region--bottom"> </div> </div> Fri, 04 Jun 2021 23:23:34 +0000 Mr. Anon y mous 216 at https://calvinismexamined.com Unconditional election https://calvinismexamined.com/claim/unconditional-election <span class="field field-name-title field-formatter-string field-type-string field-label-hidden">Unconditional election</span> <span class="field field-name-uid field-formatter-author field-type-entity-reference field-label-hidden"><span lang="" about="/user/1" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Mr. Anon y mous</span></span> <span class="field field-name-created field-formatter-timestamp field-type-created field-label-hidden">Thu, 03/04/2021 - 03:16</span> <div class="atl atl--layout-twocol-bricks layout layout--twocol-bricks"> <div class="layout__region layout__region--top"> <div class="field field-node--field-state field-formatter-list-default field-name-field-state field-type-workflow field-label-hidden has-single"><div class="field__items"><div class="field__item">Public</div></div> </div> </div> <div class="layout__region layout__region--first-above"> <div class="field field-node-field-topic-or-scripture field-entity-reference-type-taxonomy-term field-formatter-entity-reference-label field-name-field-topic-or-scripture field-type-entity-reference field-label-inline clearfix"><h3 class="field__label">Topic or Scripture</h3><div class="field__items"><div class="field__item field__item--topic"> <span class="field__item-wrapper"><a href="/taxonomy/term/17" hreflang="en">Topic</a></span> </div></div> </div> </div> <div class="layout__region layout__region--second-above"> <div class="field field-node-field-tags-claims field-entity-reference-type-taxonomy-term field-formatter-entity-reference-label field-name-field-tags-claims field-type-entity-reference field-label-inline clearfix"><h3 class="field__label">Tags</h3><div class="field__items"><div class="field__item field__item--unconditional-election"> <span class="field__item-wrapper"><a href="/tagsforclaims/unconditional-election" hreflang="en">unconditional election</a></span> </div><div class="field__item field__item--revisit"> <span class="field__item-wrapper"><a href="/tagsforclaims/revisit" hreflang="en">revisit</a></span> </div></div> </div> </div> <div class="layout__region layout__region--middle"> <div class="clearfix text-formatted field field-node--field-claim field-formatter-text-default field-name-field-claim field-type-text-long field-label-above has-single"><h3 class="field__label">Claim</h3><div class="field__items"><div class="field__item"><p>Unconditional election is true.</p></div></div> </div> <div class="clearfix text-formatted field field-node--field-refutation field-formatter-text-default field-name-field-refutation field-type-text-long field-label-above has-single"><h3 class="field__label">Refuting Calvinism</h3><div class="field__items"><div class="field__item"><p>Man has a choice to receive God, and that is one condition on which salvation depends. To as many as received Jesus, to those he gave power to become the sons of God. John 1:12</p></div></div> </div> <div class="clearfix text-formatted field field-node--field-support field-formatter-text-default field-name-field-support field-type-text-long field-label-above has-single"><h3 class="field__label">Supporting Calvinism</h3><div class="field__items"><div class="field__item"><p>TBA (to be added)</p></div></div> </div> <section class="field field-node--field-comments field-formatter-comment-default field-name-field-comments field-type-comment field-label-above display-mode-threaded comment-bundle-comment-claim comment-wrapper"> <a name="comments"></a></section> </div> <div class="layout__region layout__region--first-below"> </div> <div class="layout__region layout__region--second-below"> </div> <div class="layout__region layout__region--bottom"> </div> </div> Thu, 04 Mar 2021 08:16:31 +0000 Mr. Anon y mous 78 at https://calvinismexamined.com