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Spurgeon rejected limited atonement

Mr. Anon y mous — Tue, 11 May 2021 02:42:28 +0000

Spurgeon rejected limited atonement Mr. Anon y mous Mon, 05/10/2021 - 22:42

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Charles Haddon Spurgeon emphatically rejected Limited Atonement.

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In Spurgeon's own words:

I know there are some who think it necessary to their system of theology to limit the merit of the blood of Jesus: if my theological system needed such limitation, I would cast it to the winds. I cannot, I dare not, allow the thought to find lodging in my mind, it seems so near akin to blasphemy. .... 1

1Charles Haddon Spurgeon, Autobiography of Charles H. Spurgeon (American Baptist Society, n.d.), 1:174, as quoted in What Love is This? The Berean Call; 4th edition (1 May 2013)

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Limited atonement does not glorify God

Mr. Anon y mous — Thu, 15 Apr 2021 19:05:39 +0000

Limited atonement does not glorify God Mr. Anon y mous Thu, 04/15/2021 - 15:05

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Limited atonement does not glorify God

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Limited atonement does not glorify God, instead it paints the picture of God as a tyrant, unjust, respecter of persons, not a loving God.

See God is glorified by ordaining everything ??

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1 Tim 2:1-6

Mr. Anon y mous — Sun, 04 Apr 2021 13:38:51 +0000

1 Tim 2:1-6 Mr. Anon y mous Sun, 04/04/2021 - 09:38

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1 Tim 2:1-6 indicates that limited atonement is false.

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I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; ... [God our Saviour] Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. - 1 Tim 2:1-6

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1 Tim 2:1-6 mentions also…

Mr. Anon y mous Sun, 04/04/2021 - 09:51

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1 Tim 2:1-6 mentions also prayer for those in authority - however, this need not exclude others. Calvinism might argue that all refers to kings and those in authority, only.

However, this mention of kings and those in authority comes after the mention of all men and quite possibly elaborates on the reason for praying for those in authority - "that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty."

There is a different reason for praying for all men, which is that they might be saved.

We have 2 different groups, though one includes the other, and 2 different reasons for prayer.

Also, note the fact that this passage refers to ALL those in authority, not just SOME who are in authority. This means we are not told to pray for some in a type of people, but all in the type.

And the interpretation that ALL refers to all TYPES of people, but only SOME members of that type, is not what we see in this scripture - it is to pray for ALL in that type, not only some in that type.

Did Jesus attempt to save all, and fail?

Mr. Anon y mous — Sun, 04 Apr 2021 13:23:34 +0000

Did Jesus attempt to save all, and fail? Mr. Anon y mous Sun, 04/04/2021 - 09:23

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Calvinism says if one person rejects salvation even though God provided atonement for that person, God failed. Is this true?

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The precise goal of God was to make salvation available for all, not to force atonement / salvation on all. So in this case, Jesus did not fail, even if some reject the offer of salvation.

God's plan itself was to allow man the freedom to reject the offer.

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Unlimited atonement glorifies God

Mr. Anon y mous — Sun, 04 Apr 2021 12:55:44 +0000

Unlimited atonement glorifies God Mr. Anon y mous Sun, 04/04/2021 - 08:55

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Unlimited atonement glorifies God

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God shows his nature, goodness, and love by virtue of unlimited atonement.

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Rom 5:18

Mr. Anon y mous — Thu, 04 Mar 2021 08:23:49 +0000

Rom 5:18 Mr. Anon y mous Thu, 03/04/2021 - 03:23

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Calvinism claims that the word all does not mean literally all people in Rom 5:18.

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Rom 5:18 uses all to refer to all men being condemned. It also uses all to refer to the free gift coming upon all men to justification.

18 Therefore, as through one man’s offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man’s righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life.

If the word all referring judgment and condemnation, in the first part of this verse, really refers to all, then the same word would also refer to all men in the last part of the verse. Both uses of the word "all" are in the same context, in the same book, even the same chapter, and even the same verse. More, they are in the same sentence.

There is no reason for all to literally mean all in one case, and to not literally mean all in the other.

Since Calvinists and non-Calvinists alike accept that all men are condemned, then we can safely assume that all in this verse also refers to the free gift coming upon literally all men.

This means the atonement was for all, not limited in its scope.

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